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		<description><![CDATA[<p class="wp-caption-text">Andrew Temby</p> This episode we&#8217;re joined by Dan, David &#038; Rob from the Airplane Geeks podcast to discuss airline news and have a great discussion about air traffic control issues here &#038; in the USA. We also have interviews with Dr Bruce Searle, dean of the Australian Centre for Mission Aviation, and Andrew Temby, <span style="color:#777"> . . . &#8594; Read More: <a href="http://www.planecrazydownunder.com/2009/09/22/episode-9-airplane-geeks-down-under/">PCDU Episode 9: Airplane Geeks Down Under</a></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><img alt="Andrew Temby" src="http://www.flymefriendly.com/gallery/d/1012-2/AndrewTemby.jpg" title="Andrew Temby" width="150" height="150" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Andrew Temby</p></div> This episode we&#8217;re joined by <a href="http://www.twitter.com/danwebbage">Dan</a>, <a href="http://www.twitter.com/dmvanderhoof">David</a> &#038; <a href="http://www.twitter.com/jetwhine">Rob</a> from the <a href="http://www.airplanegeeks.com">Airplane Geeks podcast</a> to discuss airline news and have a great discussion about air traffic control issues here &#038; in the USA. We also have interviews with Dr Bruce Searle, dean of the <a href="http://www.bcv.vic.edu.au/MissionAviation.aspx">Australian Centre for Mission Aviation</a>, and Andrew Temby, aerobatic pilot &#038; owner of a YAK-52TW. Both were recorded at the <a href="http://www.maf.org.au">Mission Aviation Fellowship</a> airshow held at Coldstream Airport (YCEM) a few weeks back.</p>
<p>While <a href="http://www.twitter.com/maxflight">Max Flight</a> from the <a href="http://www.twitter.com/airplanegeeks">Airplane Geeks</a> couldn&#8217;t be with us, having the other guys from the show record with us was a hoot and certainly generated a LOT of content for a future &#8220;Bloopers Only&#8221; episode. We&#8217;re definitely looking forward to recording with them again once our sanity recovers.<div class="wp-caption alignright" style="width: 160px"><img alt="Dr Bruce Searle" src="http://www.flymefriendly.com/gallery/d/1016-2/DrBruceSearle.jpg" title="Dr Bruce Searle" width="150" height="150" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Dr Bruce Searle</p></div>
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<p>The topics discussed in this episode include:</p>
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<li>A general discussion of airline issues down under with the Airplane Geeks</p>
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<li><a href="http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2009/09/16/332348/emirates-and-v-australia-to-codeshare-on-tasman-routes.html">Emirates and V Australia to codeshare on Tasman routes (Leithen Francis @ FlightGlobal)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://boardingarea.com/blogs/thingsinthesky/2009/09/17/v-australia-to-codeshare-withemirates/">V Australia to Codeshare with…Emirates? (Dan Webb @ Things in the Sky)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26087363-23349,00.html">High fuel prices may clip recovery (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26093565-23349,00.html">Premium passengers slowly return to flights (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090915-703962.html">Qantas CEO: See No Further Room For Capacity Cuts In This FY (Wall St Journal)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20090819-702477.html">INTERVIEW: Qantas CEO: Passenger Demand Higher Than Expected (Wall St Journal)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26093566-23349,00.html">Qantas jettisons JAL merger rumour (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/business/virgin-in-talks-to-buy-4b-planes-20090916-frrf.html">Virgin in talks to buy $4b planes (Matt O&#8217;Sullivan @ The Age)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://wordpress.ausaviation.skytix.com.au/virgin-blue-to-buy-30-to-50-737s/">Virgin Blue to buy 30 to 50 737s? (Australian Aviation magazine)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26088147-23349,00.html">Virgin Blue&#8217;s plan to seat more passengers (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26083655-23349,00.html">Brett Godfrey true believer in 50pc Virgin share (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
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<li>Talking about Air Traffic Control issues with Rob &#038; David
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<li><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/13/2684443.htm">Staff shortage sparks national flight delays (ABC News)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/national/flights-delayed-or-cancelled-as-air-controllers-unavailable-20090913-fma0.html">Flights delayed or cancelled as air controllers &#8220;unavailable&#8221; (Sydney Morning Herald)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/14/2684662.htm">Sydney&#8217;s flight schedule &#8216;to return to normal&#8217; (ABC News)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26089399-23349,00.html">Airservices, staff on collision course (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetalking/2009/09/14/virgin-blue-to-pursue-airservices-australia-for-compensation-for-its-air-traffic-failures/">Virgin Blue to pursue AirServices Australia for compensation for its air traffic failures (Ben Sandilands @ Crikey)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26074127-23349,00.html">Military to lose airspace in $300m savings push (Cameron Stewart &#038; Steve Creedy @ The Australian)</a></li>
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<li>David Vanderhoof presents &#8220;This week in Australian aviation history&#8221; covering the official approval for the establishment of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Flying_School_RAAF">Central Flying School</a> at Point Cook (now referred to as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAAF_Base_Williams">RAAF Williams</a>)</li>
<li>Grant went to the Mission Aviation Fellowship airshow at Coldstream Airport (YCEM) and recorded these interviews
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<li>Dr Bruce Searle, Dean of the Australian Centre for Mission Aviation</li>
<li>Andrew Temby, aerobatics pilot and owner of a Yak-52TW</li>
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<li>We discuss some military news
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<li><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/16/2687895.htm">Questions over F-35&#8242;s stealth capability (ABC News)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/business/story/0,,26054987-23349,00.html">Air Marshall Mark Binskin wants more fighters (Mark Dodd @ The Australian)</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/09/12/2683984.htm">F-111 maintenance blamed for creek contamination (ABC News)</a></li>
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<li>We review some of the &#8220;Traffic&#8221; entries from the latest Australian Aviation magazine
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<li>OzJet 737-200s</li>
<li>V Australia&#8217;s latest 777</li>
<li>RAAF KC30 MRTT</li>
<li>Air New Zealand&#8217;s 767 with blended winglets</li>
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		<itunes:subtitle>Andrew Temby This episode we&#8217;re joined by Dan, David &#038; Rob from the Airplane Geeks podcast to discuss airline news and have a great discussion about air traffic control issues here &#038; in the USA. We also have interviews with Dr Bruce [...]</itunes:subtitle>
		<itunes:summary>Andrew Temby This episode we&#8217;re joined by Dan, David &#038; Rob from the Airplane Geeks podcast to discuss airline news and have a great discussion about air traffic control issues here &#038; in the USA. We also have interviews with Dr Bruce Searle, dean of the Australian Centre for Mission Aviation, and Andrew Temby, aerobatic pilot &#038; owner of a YAK-52TW. Both were recorded at the Mission Aviation Fellowship airshow held at Coldstream Airport (YCEM) a few weeks back.
While Max Flight from the Airplane Geeks couldn&#8217;t be with us, having the other guys from the show record with us was a hoot and certainly generated a LOT of content for a future &#8220;Bloopers Only&#8221; episode. We&#8217;re definitely looking forward to recording with them again once our sanity recovers.Dr Bruce Searle
&#160;
The topics discussed in this episode include:

A general discussion of airline issues down under with the Airplane Geeks

Emirates and V Australia to codeshare on Tasman routes (Leithen Francis @ FlightGlobal)
V Australia to Codeshare with…Emirates? (Dan Webb @ Things in the Sky)
High fuel prices may clip recovery (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)
Premium passengers slowly return to flights (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)
Qantas CEO: See No Further Room For Capacity Cuts In This FY (Wall St Journal)
INTERVIEW: Qantas CEO: Passenger Demand Higher Than Expected (Wall St Journal)
Qantas jettisons JAL merger rumour (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)
Virgin in talks to buy $4b planes (Matt O&#8217;Sullivan @ The Age)
Virgin Blue to buy 30 to 50 737s? (Australian Aviation magazine)
Virgin Blue&#8217;s plan to seat more passengers (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)
Brett Godfrey true believer in 50pc Virgin share (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)


Talking about Air Traffic Control issues with Rob &#038; David

Staff shortage sparks national flight delays (ABC News)
Flights delayed or cancelled as air controllers &#8220;unavailable&#8221; (Sydney Morning Herald)
Sydney&#8217;s flight schedule &#8216;to return to normal&#8217; (ABC News)
Airservices, staff on collision course (Steve Creedy @ The Australian)
Virgin Blue to pursue AirServices Australia for compensation for its air traffic failures (Ben Sandilands @ Crikey)
Military to lose airspace in $300m savings push (Cameron Stewart &#038; Steve Creedy @ The Australian)


David Vanderhoof presents &#8220;This week in Australian aviation history&#8221; covering the official approval for the establishment of the Central Flying School at Point Cook (now referred to as RAAF Williams)
Grant went to the Mission Aviation Fellowship airshow at Coldstream Airport (YCEM) and recorded these interviews

Dr Bruce Searle, Dean of the Australian Centre for Mission Aviation
Andrew Temby, aerobatics pilot and owner of a Yak-52TW


Matt Hall came 3rd at the Porto RedBull AirRace in Portugal &#8211; YAY!

We discuss some military news

Questions over F-35&#8242;s stealth capability (ABC News)
Air Marshall Mark Binskin wants more fighters (Mark Dodd @ The Australian)
F-111 maintenance blamed for creek contamination (ABC News)


We review some of the &#8220;Traffic&#8221; entries from the latest Australian Aviation magazine

OzJet 737-200s
V Australia&#8217;s latest 777
RAAF KC30 MRTT
Air New Zealand&#8217;s 767 with blended winglets



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